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Fleischer on why Ryan retirement could help GOP fundraising


CAPABLE LEADERSHIP TEAM. I –>>WHY DO YOU THINK –>>I BELIEVE WE’LL GET THE VOTES.>>Julie: PAUL RYAN ON HIS ENDORSEMENT OF MAJORITY LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY TO SUCCEED HIM AS HOUSE SPEAKER. SOME REPUBLICANS ARE CRITICIZING HIS DECISION TO FINISH OUT HIS TERM AND RETIRE IN JANUARY ARGUING IT WILL LEAD TO A POWER STRUGGLE WITHIN THE PARTY RANKS. LET’S BRING IN OUR NEXT GUEST, ARI FLEISCHER, FORMER PRESS SECRETARY FOR GEORGE W. BUSH. GREAT TO SEE YOU. YOU THINK THE SPEAKERSHIP VOTE SHOULD BE POSTPONED?>>NO, I DON’T. YOU KNOW, I’VE WATCHED OR THIS MORNING MADE A COUPLE PHONE CALLS TO A FEW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO GET THEIR TAKE ON IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INSIDER’S PERSPECTIVE. THE MEMBERS I SPOKE TO AND THEY SAID THIS REPRESENTS AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE CAUCUS THINKS STABILITY IS THE RIGHT COURSE. LET THE SPEAKER DO WHAT HE SAID. FINISH OUT HIS TERM. HOLD THE SPEAKERSHIP ELECTIONS AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THAT’S THE WISEST COURSE.>>Julie: RYAN’S CAMP ARGUES THAT HOUSE REPUBLICANS WOULD BE BEST SERVED IN THE MID-TERMS BY KEEPING HIM IN THE POST THROUGH THE ELECTION. HOW WILL RYAN’S PRESENCE AFFECT REPUBLICANS IN THE MID-TERMS BY RYAN STICKING AROUND AND IS HE HAMPERING KEVIN McCARTHY’S ROLE AS HIS ULTIMATE REPLACEMENT?>>NO, HE’S NOT. I THINK KEVIN McCARTHY WILL MOST LIKELY BE THE SPEAKER. LET’S WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THE ELECTION IF THERE’S ANY EXTERNAL EVENTS. IN FACT, I CAN MAKE THE CASE THAT IT WILL ENHANCE REPUBLICAN FUND-RAISING BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL YOU HAVE THE CURRENT SPEAKER OUT THERE, THAT WILL RAISE MONEY AND IT WON’T BE DIMINISHED, YOU’LL HAVE A SPEAK DIMINISHED, YOU’LL HAVE A SPEA SPEAKER IN THE WINGS WHO WILL RAISE MORE MONEY FOR REPUBLICANS. YOU’LL HAVE TWO SPEAKERS OUT THERE TO RAISE MORE MONEY AND GET BIGGER CROWDS. SO I THINK THE RIGHT THING IS TO HAVE STABILITY. ONE OTHER POINT HERE, IS IF YOU HELD THE ELECTION TODAY AND THE REPUBLICANS LOST THE HOUSE, THEN THE SPEAKER WOULD STEP DOWN, NO REPUBLICAN SPEAKER ANYMORE. HE BECOMES MAJORITY LEADER. THE MAJORITY LEADER STEPS DOWN, HE BACKS INTO THE WHIP JOB. IT CREATES TURMOIL BECAUSE THE WHOLE ELECTION GETS REVERSED IF REPUBLICANS LOSE THE HOUSE. SO THE WISEST COURSE IS WHAT RYAN LAID OUT. LET HIM FINISH HIS TERM AND HOLD THE LEADERSHIP ELECTIONS AFTER THE ELECTION.>>HOW MUCH OF THIS IS A POWER STRUGGLE? PAUL RYAN SAID THERE’S NOBODY THAT COMES CLOSE TO RAISE THE KIND OF MONEY THAT I HAVE. I CAN STILL RAISE FOR THIS MAJORITY. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO TAKE THE BIGGEST FUND RAISER OFF THIS FIELD. I THINK ALMOST ALL OF OUR MEMBERS SEE IT THAT WAY AS WELL. NOT NECESSARILY ALL THE MEMBERS SEE IT THAT WAY. CONGRESSMAN TOM GRAVES, WHEN HE TRIED TO MAKE THE CASE LAST WEEK THAT ESSENTIALLY HE BELIEVED THAT McCARTHY SHOULD BE VOTED IN NOW RATHER THAN LATER. PAUL RYAN, HE DIDN’T LIKE THAT SO MUCH. HE IN FACT PUBLICLY INSULTED THE IDEA. I FELT THAT MAYBE HE WAS INSULTED HIMSELF. HE DOESN’T BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO PUSH HIM OUT. WHAT IS THE HARM IN HOLDING THE VOTE NOW TO SECURE THE SPEAKERSHIP?>>NUMBER 1, THERE AREN’T A LOT OF MEMBERS IN THE CAUCUS THAT FIELD THAT WAY. A FEW BUT NOT MANY. AND THE HARM IS JUST WHAT I OUTLINED BEFORE. IT’S THE STABILITY ARGUMENT. THERE’S A LOT MORE STABILITY IN KEEPING PAUL RYAN HERE NOW. LET’S SEE IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE MAJORITY OR MINORITY AFTER NOVEMBER AND HOLD THE ELECTION THEN. I THINK MEMBERS WANT MORE STABILITY. THEY DON’T WANT PALACE INTRIGUE AND THE RACE. YOU’D HAVE A RACE FOR WHIP AND EVERYTHING BECOMES OPEN NOW. YES, THERE’S AN ELEMENT THESE ARE ALL POWER STRUGGLES TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, BUT ALSO ABLE

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